The Elder Scrolls: Arena (Traducción) [Finalizada]

[cireja]

A mi me pasó lo mismo con la traducción del Nippon Safes. Tuve que completar con espacios en blanco al final de cada bloque para que la suma en hexa me cuadrase con los punteros. Creo que podrías poner los espacios todos al final, así no tendrías que retraducir.
Usa UltraISO, yo creo que es el más potente, y te cuenta to lo que le pidas que te cuente . Eso sí, antes que nada, configúralo para que no te convierta a espacios los caracteres hexa 00, caguen!!! todavía recuerdo la trastada que me hizo una vez por no desmarcar esa casilla...

[darkpadawan]

¿UltraISO sirve para editar texto?


Casi cualquier editor cuenta el número de caracteres, pero seleccionando el bloque de texto y eligiendo el comando correspondiente.

Yo más bien pensaba en algo como los editores de código fuente, que en la misma pantalla te muestran el número de caracteres de las frases sin tener que hacer nada. He leído que Notepad++ lo permite, pero no encuentro la opción.


Es que si no, no veo forma de poder saber cuántos caracteres tiene cada párrafo y adecuar el texto traducido, y hablo de centenares y centenares de párrafos.

[cireja]

Hombre, pues ya no sé qué decirte. Yo siempre me he apañado muy bien con el UltraISO, pero es como todo, depende de las horas que le quieras echar a mirar bien el programa y ver las posibilidades que tiene.

[darkpadawan]

No, si no lo digo por eso. Es que UltraISO yo lo uso para crear o modificar imágenes ISO, no como editor de textos. ¿O hay otro UltraISO por ahí?



El problema con el que me encuentro es el siguiente:

Tenemos un párrafo original tal que así:

You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
fine trappings and furniture
that decorate the area. A cool
breeze wafts through the area,
drying the sweat from your body
and bringing a welcomed sigh to
your lips. You relish in the
brief respite. Ahead of you
waits %rf, %t of %cn. It is well
known that %cn is currently at %st with its
neighbor, %cn2.&


Pues bien: la traducción tiene que tener el número de caracteres exacto, si no no funciona. El problema con el que me encuentro es que no sé cómo contar de forma cómoda los caracteres:

El Word de Office me dice que son 359.
Gedit me dice que son 370.



Y claro, así no hay forma.

[cireja]

Ay, la madre que me parió!!! Me he confundido!!! Yo me estaba refiriendo a UltraEdit, joer, siento el malentendido

[darkpadawan]

xD

Ya me parecía a mí.



Bueno, Notepad++ cuenta los caracteres en la propia barra de estado del programa, creo que me podría servir.

[darkpadawan]

Skazz, las fuentes no las reconoce. Ni el estilo del texto, ni las acentuaciones.

[SkaZZ]

Ahora mismo estoy de vacaciones pero lo que me dices me ha dejado pasmado. Usé el programa que me enviaste y me aparecían bien las fuentes. Cuando vuelva lo miraré...

[darkpadawan]

Con tranquilidad, no dejes de tomar el sol.


Veo mi mensaje y no dejo claro que, posiblemente, sea porque yo estoy haciendo algo mal xD

No sé si tendrá algo que ver, por comodidad estoy usando una cómoda versión basada en la liberada de disquetes y que incluye el contenido de la edición CD:

http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Arena_:_ArenaSetup_EN



Por otro lado, ya he probado a ver si usando la función de contar palabras del Notepad++ podía funcionar o tenía que tirar a la papelera dieciséis mil líneas de texto traducido.

Afortunadamente, funciona. El trabajo es titánico (elegir un párrafo, apuntar los caracteres que contiene, y re-traducir de forma que haya exactamente los mismos), así que para no morirme de asco tengo pensado ir haciéndolo sobre la marcha: jugando y cambiando los textos según aparecen.

[manporde]

Buenas, vereias esque estoy interesado en la traduccion del elder scrolls arena, queria saber si me pueden pasar lo que ya esta traducido y los programas para editar fuentes e imagenes para poder ayudar en la traduccion

[SkaZZ]

Tranquilo, como se lo debo a darkpadawan, he empezado a enlazar todos los archivos que me envió y montarlo todo; las imágenes las estoy rehaciendo de nuevo.
Las fuentes funcionan, las he probado y funcionan a la perfección. Cuando pueda os pondré un vídeo para que veáis como va la cosa.

[SkaZZ]

Bueno, como veo que hay mucha gente que me pide participar en la traducción del primer Elder Scrolls, voy a postear aquí el código descompilado de TEMPLATE.DAT. Intentaré ponerlo todo en el post principal según se vaya terminando. Para los que quieran traducir esto, primero deberán leerse esto: Desde el principio del párrafo, hasta el carácter & (que está al final), la cantidad de letras debe ser igual; es decir, no podemos pasarnos pues estos textos los coge de unos punteros que luego guarda en memoria (no, no he encontrado esos punteros). Los códigos con un "%" delante, se deben mantener tal cuales (son variables que el juego usa luego sustituyendo por las palabras adecuadas). Recordad que aunque no nos podemos exceder, pueden sobrarnos caracteres que luego se sustituirán por espacios en blanco. Esto es sólo una pequeña porción. Gracias

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#0000a
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
fine trappings and furniture
that decorate the area. A cool
breeze wafts through the area,
drying the sweat from your body
and bringing a welcomed sigh to
your lips. You relish in the
brief respite. Ahead of you
waits %rf, %t of %cn. It is well
known that %cn is currently at %st with its
neighbor, %cn2.&

Outside the sun batters
relentlessly on the citizens of
%cn, but in the audience chamber
of %rf, %t of the %ct, the
shadows are deliverance. The
rewards of power and wealth
decorate the room. Obviously,
being at %st with the %ct's
neighbor, %cn2, has been
profitable for the %t of %cn.
Perhaps you too can benefit from
this situation...&

You enter the audience
chamber of %rf, %t of %cn.
Despite the season, not a warm
ray of sunshine has touched this
room. You breath in the musty
air and wipe the sweat from your
brow as you wait for the %t to
finish business with some
messengers from %cn2, %cn's
neighbor. The behavior between
the %t and the messengers is
peculiar, considering the two
have been at %st for some time...&

#0000b
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
fine trappings and furniture
that decorate the area. Outside
you can still hear the raindrops
as they fall, soaking everything
in sight and creating a humid
haze which causes your clothes
to cling to you like a second
skin. Ahead of you waits %rf, %t
of %cn. It is well known that
%cn is currently at %st with its neighbor, %cn2.&

You enter the audience
chamber, wiping the warm water
of the summer rain off of your
face. At the center of the
opulently decorated room, %t %rf
is speaking with the %ct
councilmen of %cn. You overhear
them mention %cn2, their
neighbor to the %di, with which
%cn is at %st.&

Like an unwanted dog, the
steam from the hot summer
drizzle has followed you to the audience chamber of %rf, %t of
%cn. They whisper,
but you think you hear one of
the counselors remind the %t
that they are at %st with %cn2, the
%ct's neighbor to the %di.&

#0000c
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
fine trappings and furniture
that decorate the area. Even
though the clouds outside have
made everything seem dull and
gray, you find that the interior
is brightly lit and cheerful.
Ahead of you waits %rf, %t of
%cn. It is well known that %cn
is currently at %st with its
neighbor, %cn2.&

You enter %t %rf's audience
chamber, finding the %ct elders
in conference with the %t. The
mood in the room reflects the
weather outside; hot and dark
with rain clouds. The elders
continue to whisper nervously
one to the other.&

The audience chamber of %t
%rf of %cn is alive with
activity. The %t and an elder
discuss a discontented local
group who wish %cn no longer to
be at %st with its neighbor,
%cn2. %g next turns attention to
a merchant whose shop is under suspicion of housing a
Thieves' Guild...&

#0000d
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and
furniture that decorate the
area. Outside the golden fall
sun lends its warmth, holding
back winter's hand for a few
moments more. Ahead of you waits
%rf, %t of %cn. It is well known
that %cn is currently at %st with
its neighbor, %cn2.&

It is the busiest season of
the year in %cn, and the
palace's audience chamber is
filled with area farmers
discussing their harvests with
%t %rf. Many linger in the room
after their business is through,
procrastinating the return to the burning
field work. They
seem to be talking mostly about
%cn being suddenly at %st with its nearest neighbor,
%cn2, and how this will
change the trade throughout the province.&

It is unusually warm for the
autumn in %cn, but the audience chamber of %t %rf
reflects little of the
sunshine outside...&

#0000e
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber shaking the
cold rain from your shoulders.
The first thing you notice is
the many fine trappings and
furniture that decorate the
area. The warm air serves to
quickly dry you from the fall
shower outside. Ahead of you
waits %rf, %t of %cn...&

You had hoped that the
chamber of the %t of %cn would
provide relief from the cold
autumn rain outside, but it is
as damp and chilly as a
mausoleum. Others seeking
audience wait with dripping hair
and chattering teeth, as %t %rf
talks with a representative from
%cn2, the %ct's neighbor that
%cn is at %st with...&

It has been an uncomfortably
warm autumn in the %ct of %cn,
so the recent shower has
actually improved the mood in
the audience chamber of %t %rf.
You know that %cn2, %cn's temperamental neighbor, is only
recently at %st with %t %rf, but
foreign diplomacy is not being discussed among the %t and the
circle of counselors.&

#0000f
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and furs
that decorate the area. Even
though autumn's clouds outside
have made everything seem cold
and gray, you find that the
interior is brightly lit and
warm. Ahead of you waits %rf, %t
of %cn. It is well known that
%cn is currently at %st with its neighbor, %cn2.&

You enter %t %rf's audience
chamber, shaking the chill of
the gray autumn day from your
skin. Being currently at %st with
its neighbor %cn2, the leading citizens of %cn have met to
discuss the resultant
implications with their %t...&

As you enter the audience
chamber of the %t of %cn, you
feel the autumn chill from the
outside is actually intensified within. The thick furs and
darkly beautiful ornaments that decorate the walls make you
feel as if you're being watched. %t
%rf looks up from the conference
%g is having with the council of elders...&


#0000g
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and warm
furs that decorate the area.
Even though the sun outside is
strong, winter's hand has
chilled you to the bone. You
find that you welcome the
brightly lit and warm interior.
Ahead of you waits %rf, %t of
%cn...&

You enter the audience
chamber of %t %rf of the %ct of
%cn, lips chapped from the cold,
flesh burned by the sun. Representatives from %cn2,
meeting with the %t, leave the
room as you enter. It appears
not to have gone well, for the
council of elders and %t %rf seem
to be in a sour mood...&

%t %rf's audience chamber is
alive with excitement. %cn and
%cn2, the %ct's neighbor to the
%di, are at %st talks. Naturally,
this has caused a lot of the
internal stress within %cn. The
%t is remarkably calm, hearing
each of the citizen's concerns
about trade and commerce...&


#0000h
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and warm
furs that decorate the area. You feel your
frozen limbs begin to
thaw in the warm heat of the
brightly lit interior. You
welcome the brief respite from
the cold. Ahead of you waits %rf,
%t of %cn...&

The audience chamber of %t
%rf is drier than the snowy
streets of %cn, but not any
warmer. You rub your hands
together and watch your breath
come like smoke from a chimney...&

Your eyes, squinting from
the glare of the snow outside,
grow accustomed to the gloom of
%t %rf's audience chamber.&

#0000i
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and warm
furs that decorate the area. The freezing temperature and
iron gray clouds outside have made everything frozen and dull,
though you find that the
interior of this chamber is
brightly lit and cheerful. Ahead
of you waits %rf, %t of %cn...&

Frozen to the core, you
stumble into the audience
chamber of %t %rf, only to feel a
chill that pierces your soul.
The room itself is physically
warm and pleasing to the eye, but
you sense an undercurrent of tension...&

You are admitted into the
presence of the good %t of the
%ct of %cn. A thick cloak of
wolf hide is gently wrapped
around your shoulders, and as
feeling returns to your skin,
you feel that parts of your face
were dangerously close to
frostbite...&

#0000j
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and
expensive furniture that
decorate the area. The warm
spring air wafts through an open window, bringing along with it the
scent of newly budding
flowers and fresh green grass.&

It is hard to believe that
anyone can think of politics on
such a day, but people are
lining up to be heard by %t %rf
while outside newly bloomed
flowers perfume the air...&

Inside the audience chamber
of %rf, %t of %cn, the new
sprouts of spring die young and
the perfume of the fresh blossom
turns to a sickly stench.
%rf is rumored to have angered the %ct
oracle who placed upon the %t a
curse of poor health. The
political change has been very noticeable in such a %ct
where tradition is of highest
importance...&


#0000k
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and
expensive furniture that
decorate the area. The warm
spring shower has left you
pleasantly refreshed, if a bit
wet, but a breeze seems to be
blowing through here and you
feel yourself dry quickly...&

For an agriculture-based %ct
like %cn, a good spring rain
makes all the difference during
the seeding. Everyone seems in a
good mood, and the preparations
for the traditional new year celebrations is the
conversation on all lips...&

Through an open window in
the audience chamber of %t %rf,
you can smell the spring rain
and newly blossomed flowers out
in the streets of %cn. The floor
is wet with the tread of many visitors...&

#0000l
You walk into the %t's
audience chamber, noticing the
many fine trappings and
expensive furniture that
decorate the area. The day has
been overcast, iron gray clouds
that hint of a spring storm. You
find yourself welcoming the
sun's return. Ahead of you waits
%rf, %t of %cn. It is well known
that %cn is currently at %st with
its neighbor, %cn2.&

The government of %cn is
like the weather outside,
pleasantly temperate but dark
with clouds threatening
catastrophe. In the audience
chamber of %t %rf no one even
whispers their theories about
the ulterior motives behind the
%ct's recent declaration of %st
with its neighbor, %cn2.&

You like the looks of the
audience chamber of %rf, %t of
%cn the moment you enter.
Beautiful music rings through
the room and the walls hang with
rich tapestries of spring scenes
much nicer than the gray day
outside...&

[Kendo]

lo de "%t's" supongo que es la ciudad donde estas o algo asi, pero lo de %rf, %t of %cn no lo pillo, iluminame y me pongo a ratitos, que sin eso no se que tipo de palabras irian ahi ni el género ni nada

[SkaZZ]

Los códigos con un "%" delante, se deben mantener tal cuales (son variables que el juego usa luego sustituyendo por las palabras adecuadas).

[Kendo]

si eso ya lo se skazz!

mi uda venia por saber si hay que onerle artículo a esas palabras, o no, o si el articulo va incluido en dichas palabras que aparecen despues.

ejemplito:

You walk into the %t's
audience chamber

lo que necesito saber es que hago con ese "the", porque si luego hay que cambiarlo una vez traducido nos puede alterar todas las cuentas de caracteres